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I think there's a problem with terminology here. Consider Bill's claim:

"why did you put “Withdrawals” on the LH column, above my $30,150 deposit? That should be “Deposits”, not “Withdrawals”. That transaction represents the value of the loan agreement I deposited in the Bank, doesn’t it?"

To deposit with a bank means to hand *cash* to the bank, in exchange for the bank crediting your account. Bill didn't hand over any cash at all: he just wrote a promissory note. Therefore Bill didn't deposit anything.

The statements are presented as though Bill has (1) withdrawn $30,150 of cash from a new account with an overdraft facility, (2) paid $150 cash to the bank as a fee, and (3) deposited the remaining $30,000 into the access advantage account. Let's look at the effects of each on the bank's (A)ssets, (L)iabilities and (E)quity:

(1)

A: - $30,150 (cash); + $30,150 (Bill)

(2)

A: + $150 (cash)

E: + $150 (fee - Bill)

(3)

A: + $30,000 (cash)

L: + $30,000 (deposit - Bill)

Notice that the changes to the bank's cash position cancel each other out, leaving just:

A: + $30,150 (Bill)

L: + $30,000 (deposit - Bill)

E: + $150 (fee - Bill)

All in all, that seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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A question for you, without getting into the details of terminology and accounting rules.

Would you say that this arrangement with the bank allowed Bill to buy $30,000 of goods and services in the short term, in exchange for paying the bank $30,150 plus interest (and late payment fees) in the longer term?

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